Oh my Goth, what a heavenly place 
Definitely in - will be there
My friend was telling me that they recently stayed in an Airbnb in Washington state that had starlink and it was super fast so maybe we pay for that a satellite receiver is 150 and itās about a hundred to $200 a month for service. Iāve been excited to try out the starlink service
Super stoked for this . Thanks yalor
This sounds super awesome!
I do have a few questions before I vote yes on the 5.5 ETH funding proposal and consider signing up.
EDIT: somehow I missed that thereāll be an organizerās meeting on Thursday. Iām looking forward to hearing what gets discussed then!
1. What is the 5.5 ETH meant to cover?
- I know itās early, but would it be possible to get a breakdown of roughly what those funds will go towards?
- For example, is the idea to cover attendees costs for the week? If so: given that space is restricted, Iām not sure how I feel about asking the 111+ members of MC to cover costs for around 1/4 of members to attend (pretty sure Iād feel that way whether or not I attend)
- Overall, Iād love to get a better sense of whether the 5.5 ETH (currently valued at around $15,700) will be sufficient to pay for expected costs, or whether weād expect additional funding proposal(s) as well.
2. Can we get a little more clarity on the āitineraryā?
Again, I know its super early and I donāt think anybody expects a fully fleshed out agenda at this point. But Iām interested in roughly what the activities would be.
- For example, currently the most detail we have is around the wellness activities. Roughly how much would be focused on those activities vs. other activities/objectives/outcomes.
- How much would be emergent vs. scheduled, specified, or outcome-oriented?
- What would/could those other activities/objectives/outcomes be?
Hey @spengrah great questions, so the structure of this is event is intentionally loose to allow for emergent design to occur (ala: MCON) we created loose timelines for people to follow and a highly curated group of attendees then stood back to let the people do what they do.
The budget specifically is to book out the location in Costa Rica and all USD costs associated, as well as hiring the folks needed to execute the event (Documentation, Content, Facilitators, Activities Coordination) and to cover the cost of sending those members who are able to attend.
As you said Iām doubtful that more than 1/4 of the members would be able to come, but the goal of the event is to come out of MetaCamp with a new vision and inspiration for what we can do with DAOās. That is what I believe MetaCartel should be āinvestingā into and the investment would be shared by members of other DAOās that choose to attend as well.
I donāt foresee MetaCartel needing to add anymore funds to the pool for this, but in order to begin planning for myself and staff I need the funds to be in a DAO (these funds are not just going to sit in my wallet FYI) the DAO will be formed and we will optād new members into the DAO to help with coordination and logistics of the event from now until the beginning of the event.
This is still in discussion but my original thoughts was that we would invite a subset of DAO contributors to pledge to the DAO, say 5k for 5 members and those folks would attend the event, participate in the discussions, activities, and benefit from communal nature of this gathering. They can then take those learnings, content, playbook back to their DAOās to implement and roll out their own gathering or team-building program.
Sure we could hire some ābusiness coachā people to come and tell us all about how to work better as a team, but as with everything we do I think we should define it for ourselves and lean on the community to create these resources that can benefit DAOās and the people in them.
The Itinerary will come from our early explorations and interviews that weāll begin hosting in the coming weeks, we donāt intend to create a prepackaged gathering or another āconferenceā so we donāt have any details yet, this will be an immersive experience based on the needs and desires of DAOās at large and the humans who represent them.
I can say that in terms of breakdown of time slots I will propose a 30/30/30 division of time spent:
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30% Facilitated workshops, circular discussions, identifying key needs and gaps in the DAO landscape/our DAOās, solution building, documentation, & outcome based brainstorming.
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30% spent on fun guided activities we can participate in as a group (wellness activities, surfing lessons, volleyball, kayaking, hiking, snorkeling, day trips into town, local arts & cultural experiences) using a simple sign up board.
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30% emergent events, spontaneous co-working, rotating topics of discussion, other types of attendee driven programming, free time for working or reflecting.
So thatās a starting point, again think of this as a grant that has a tangible outcome not just a week on the beach paid for by the DAO 
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Totally jazzed for this + finally meeting IRL! would love to rep MGD here.
What a stellar locationā¦w abundance of community design options! 
+1 to repping VentureDAO with you!
@Yalor and I just had a really good chat. I was having some nagging concern about the potential impact of this event on the health of the MC community, so we discussed and I think we ended up in a really good place.
So first off, thank you to @Yalor for hearing my concerns and actively thinking through ways to address them!
Second, Iām going to summarize the main concepts that we discussed, and then @Yalor is going to follow up with some of the more operational approaches to best align with those values. Here goes:
- In-person, intimate events are an irreplaceable venue for generating ideas, momentum around executing on those ideas, and creating closer relationships among the participants.
- However, when capacity is limited and a large portion of the community cannot participate, there is a risk of creating hierarchy within the community based on the strength of relationships developed among participants, which is not desirable within a DAO and community like MC.
- A worst case scenario would be if many MC members want to participate and arbitrary cuts have to be made
- A worst case scenario would be if many MC members want to participate and arbitrary cuts have to be made
- Having the number of (credibly) interested participants drive capacity limits (ie choice of venue) ā rather than the other way around ā may help alleviate risks stemming from #2.
- (A consideration for future events only, since the ball is already rolling on the present event.)
- Having the decision to participate include multiple factors beyond simply āI want to go and I have the timeā may also help alleviate risk stemming from #2 by creating a more natural set of participants.
- The more events like these take place, the more members can participate in and experience the benefits of at least one, which would also help alleviate concerns stemming from #2.
Much love!
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Thanks for highlighting these points and spending the time chatting with me @spengrah they are definitely valid and worth trying to mitigate.
What we discussed on the call was the concept of creating a commitment structure that would allow members of the DAO to be on equal footing when applying to join.
After reviewing the budget for the event and the necessary staff itās apparent that 15k wonāt cover everything we want to do so it makes sense to create a ticket price for the event and allow the interested members to make their pledges 
If you pledge within the following windows
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Oct - Nov 30th = $600
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December - Jan 31st = $800
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March - Event start = $1000
This means any current MetaCartel DAO member can ape into the DAO MetaCamp right now for $600 xDai, which covers all expenses on site, a shared bungalow, activities, all meals / snacks, transportation to and from airport.
If you donāt hold shares in MetaCartel you need to apply using this Typeform, which the current the organizers will start reviewing in November / December.
To clarify there are 51 spots available at this space, your room will be a shared room 3 ppl per bungalow, you are welcome to choose your roommates in advance or leave it to chance.
If you Ape directly into the DAO on xDai please post your transaction here so that I can keep a count of the amount of spots left for partners.
~ Cheers 
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Let the pledging commence, I am the first official attendee of MetaCamp because I just pledged 
Donāt you want to join me ?
Make your proposal today 600 xDai tribute and 1 share for governance 
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@Yalor // Many thanks for the invite to the MC Forum and this thread. It was wonderful and epically refreshing what the community created at MCON. Great energy and coordination.
Iād be happy to contribute my skills and time to support the team with the social design, plan, and documentation of MetaCamp.
Iām a social design ethnographer by trade, focused on social digital culture with emerging and social tech. Much of my work has been focused on social leadership and learning through org design. So, how we can lead more socially together, what language and practice we need to evolve (let go of) to free us up to do lead socially, and how are we supporting the learning of others in this.
Here is an overview of some past projects.
My process involves the documentation of human gatherings and events (photos, videos, conversational, observation), social digital assets (e.g., public and private forums), documents (e.g., admin, planning, marketing), etc. Deliverables are usuaill agreed in advance and can include reports, decks, workshops, process guides, apps, platforms, etc Throughout the process it involves posing questions and mirroring back learnings during discovery.
- You can see more about my social design processes here: Services | LWYL STUDIO
Let me know if you and the team want a call, or I can attend your first organizersā meeting, listen and offer up any suggestions or ways for the next steps.
Congrats again on MCON.
I completed the Typeform. 
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Quick update on the time-line 
How does the first week of April ? 4th - 10th Iām thinking organizers need to to arrive a couple days early so on the 1st.
- April 4-10th
- April 11 - 18th
- April 19 - 27th
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If you prefer another date please drop it in a comment & why. Iām trying to dodge any conflicting dates with this event.
Also just an FYI, all DAO members have until Nov 30th to pledge into the MetaCamp DAO = $600 xDai on xDai network.
After which time we will begin inviting non-members to stake and pledge the event. Once we hit 50 participants there will be no more slots available.
~ Cheers
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I would like to propose that we allocate a few spots for the recently formed Padawan DAO, would be cool to bring these junior folks out to the event and see what the youth have to add to the conversation 
The existing budget should be enough to cover their expenses, airfare and lodging.
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I support the idea to invite newcomers to the DAO space via Padawagmi. This diversifies the perspectives we have in the workshops. It also keeps those of us who were privileged enough to receive a personal invite honest to issues around access that are prominent in the DAO space.
Relating to ā " * 30% Facilitated workshops, circular discussions, identifying key needs and gaps in the DAO landscape/our DAOās, solution building, documentation, & outcome based brainstorming."
For the same reason, it would also be great to look at how vast is the male majority at the retreat? Will it be 20 to 1 as we experience in typical DAOs? 10 to 1? Or can we do better than that?
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Shooting for 4-1 but Iām not focused on gender, weāre adding people as they apply. Less than 5 female applications at the moment 
Will start reviewing applications in early December, with an eye towards diversity. We have 2 women on the planning committee and 3 men, so weāre doing good so far.
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Would love to see this happen!
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stoked!
I know it is not yet opened for non-members but I am trying to front-run the incoming stampede and have put in my pledge 
A bit about me:
My name is Ivan and I am the collaboration engine at Aragon - currently spending most of my time on helping to organize https://hackforfreedom.org/ (come build cool shit!). The reason I bring this up is to shill my stuff but also that the reason Aragon is involved is how inspiring MCON was for me. Aside from this, I am a weekend ape (~440 degen score) and an avid lurker in multiple DAOs (and proud How to DAO graduate).
Hope to have the chance to join the MetaCamp!
P.S. I clearly did not read the message carefully enough - filling the typeform now 
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